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Eat more Garlic
« on: November 26, 2010, 09:36:02 AM »
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol10no1/pdfs/03-0119.pdf
Fairly high tec article but it seems to make sense. Garlic to break down the biofilms and keep people out of your personal space.
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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »
Kyolic brand aged garlic has all the beneficial properties of fresh garlic without the odor that it usually causes, so you can have the best of all worlds with this.
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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 02:46:43 PM »
Hmmm.. $15 to $20 plus or minus
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00214/Kyolic-Garlic-Formula-105.html

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Kyolic Garlic Formula 105
200 mg, 200 capsules
Item Catalog Number: 00214

Garlic has been valued for centuries for its multi-faceted benefits. It has antioxidant action and can boost the level of natural glutathione, an important cellular detoxifier. The compounds allicin and oligosulfides found in garlic have demonstrated the ability to support healthy platelet function. Garlic may also act as a chelator of iron and other heavy metals that can accumulate in the body.196-225

The Life Extension Foundation Buyers Club offers Kyolic® Garlic Formula 105 because it contains a synergistic blend of several healthful ingredients along with the aged garlic.

Kyolic® Aged Garlic Extract™ begins with 100% organically grown garlic bulbs. They are then aged to perfection in a unique extraction process to eliminate odor and create beneficial compounds found only in Kyolic®. This synergistic combination has special antioxidant properties that aid in detoxification and anti-aging.232-240*

Take the best—Kyolic® Aged Garlic Extract™, the most scientifically researched, highest quality and best-selling odorless sociable garlic. garlic.
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Serving Size 2 capsules

Servings Per Container 100
Amount Per Serving

Aged Garlic Extract Powder (bulb)
400 mg

Vitamin A (100% B-carotene)
2500 IU

Vitamin C (Ester-C®)
30 mg

Vitamin E (d-alpha-tocopherol succinate)
15 IU

Selenium (L-selenomethionine)
35 mcg

Green tea powder
75 mg

Milk Thistle extract (Silymarin 80%) (fruit)
50 mg

L-Glutathione
25 mg

Pine Bark extract
7.5 mg

Grape Seed extract
7.5 mg
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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 11:15:57 PM »
I have been busy studying the grains and nutrition article referenced by Ryder at survivalblog.com

http://mutuallyassuredsurvival.com/smforums/index.php/topic,5382.msg31446.html#msg31446

A good way of sustainable adequete minerals and vitamins from grains and seeds.
So far I am at "yeah:  right!!"  with 2 rounds of dead sourdough and much consultation with a friend who has been baking for a couple of generations now (cumulative intergenerational skills).

It does make the bread much more physically satisfying and doubles the volumn we eat; so now I am making bread every second day and wondering when I will get one small step nailed reliably so I can rearange my kitchen - again- and incorporate grinding the grain myself, maybe sprouting it and drying it first (good thing I have multiple dehydrators).  Then there is the setting up to actually clean the grain prior to grinding (proving yet another exercise in almost no one has the necessary bits and pieces - special order custom machining from far away with shipping sight unseen) followed by finding the space and time to actually clean the grain (it takes about an hour a bushel = 60lbs)

I am considering a long term plan (about 4-5 generations) for actually re-establishing the skill level capacity to achieve even modest sustainability at the farm level.  DH, looking over my shoulder here suggests that his background (urban, job orientated in the industrial model) could possibly require another couple of generations to overcome.

More emphasis on "raising heros" required here at our house; and exactly what that is going to mean in a post peak oil world.



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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 10:19:42 PM »
4 - 5 generations is about how long it will take to re-learn how to use animals as source of power for transportation and machining.

Your comments make it easier to accept my continuous toe stubbing and mistakes that i just should know better than making, maybe if i had started doing this 50 or more years ago it would be understandable and second nature by now.

I have ten years now of trying to let go of that industrial model and so far the progress is slow going, generations seems about right, there too. Maybe there are bakers genes in my background because that one just came natural as can bee way back in the 70s. I had never done it before, saw it done once, and started baking the next week. Never had trouble getting folks to eat the mistakes. A drafty kitchen is deadly to rising dough.

Been hiring local teenagers to help with some of the physical labor and they all get to hear my lectures about the value of learning a TRADE, and then i explain what it means to have lots of college degrees and nothing to do with them.

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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 01:07:22 AM »
I got an e-mail over the weekend suggesting I read the article on gifting as a form of community giving at this site:

http://www.realitysandwich.com/

Found the article realistic for the most part and certainly pointing in a direction that re-establishes some form of non commercial interpersonal transactions beyond the nuclear family.  I suspect most places would need to start small and build some trust between the participants.

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 10:51:44 AM »
Beautiful piece, fantastic site, much of interest there - THANK YOU

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Fortunately, the monetization of life has reached its peak in our time, and is beginning a long and permanent receding (of which economic "recession" is an aspect). Both out of desire and necessity, we are poised at a critical moment of opportunity to reclaim gift culture, and therefore to build true community. The reclamation is part of a larger shift of human consciousness, a larger reunion with nature, earth, each other, and lost parts of ourselves. Our alienation from gift culture is an aberration and our independence an illusion. We are not actually independent or "financially secure" – we are just as dependent as before, only on strangers and impersonal institutions, and, as we are likely to soon discover, these institutions are quite fragile./quote]

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In contrast to the age of money where we can pay for anything and need no gifts, soon it will be abundantly clear: we need each other./quote]

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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 02:25:48 PM »
just stumbled across the cookbook purchased last year to address this topic and it is packed with great recipes and what seems like good anecdotal and historic uses of the primary ingredients of:

Honey, Garlic & Vinegar - Home Remedies and Recipes by Dr. Patrick Quillin, subtitle: The People's Guide to Nature's Wonder Medecines. Published by The Leader Co., Inc. North Canton, OH, copyright 1996, ISBN 1-886898-03-0

note to self: next year plant the garlic patch just after Halloween not just after Thanksgiving.

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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 05:36:51 PM »
note to self: next year plant the garlic patch just after Halloween not just after Thanksgiving.

Same problem here.  Note to self: Plant the garlic after Cdn. Labor Day(1st Mon. in Sept/) not after Halloween.  My better garlic is generally the late planted in the spring stuff from the previous year and I think that late summer plantings would do even better.


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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 12:28:39 PM »

Been hiring local teenagers to help with some of the physical labor and they all get to hear my lectures about the value of learning a TRADE, and then i explain what it means to have lots of college degrees and nothing to do with them.

You can convince teenagers to do physical labor?  Amazing.   How exactly does the beeherder do that?  (I've dragged my nephew out to collect seaweed a few times...he was less reluctant once I explained how much gold and platinum the seaweed accumulates in its structure over time.)
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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 01:20:45 AM »
This thread is all over the place LOL. Let's see if I can reply to a few threads.

First of all I love garlic and I eat vast quantities of it. I've been known to sweat garlic smell from getting saturated with the stuff. So if it's really good for me I should get a lot of benefit!  :laughing002:

I was out planting garlic today. A tad late but it will have to do. There's still plenty of winter and my garlics are hardy so they should be fine. I go for the strong ones, all hardneck types. Contrary to reputation some hardnecks keep surprisingly well. Helps that they have huge cloves.

Dame, do you know the trick for almost effortless kneading? First of all being Canadian you probably learned to push the dough. It works better if you stretch it like Continental bakers do.

French bakers only kneed the dough for 5 minutes--mostly because they are stretching not pushing, because they use a slightly slacker dough, and because they are working pretty fast. They can make a beautiful silky dough by hand.

But you can make one at least as beautiful with LESS effort. LET THE DOUGH SIT 5 MINUTES after mixing it and before kneading it. Then knead it only 10-15 times. Not minutes--only 10-15 stretches! Then let it sit 10 minutes. Then another 10-15 kneads. THAT'S IT! It comes out beautiful and very well-developed.

The French call those resting periods "autolyse", but that is a misnomer. It is not an enzymatic reaction, but the gluten strands joining up on their own while the dough rests. Using 2 of them is sufficient to reduce kneading to a very easy effort. I can easily make huge amounts of dough now without sore muscles.

Future, I think the time has come for adult role models to take charge of matters and lay down the law as regards teenagers, especially the boys. I'm going to draft a teenager to work on the farm this summer. I'm not taking "no" for an answer. He's expecting to get paid. I think he should pay me for the therapy. He's got issues that the sunshine and hard work will help work out.

I think the right attitude to take is "firm but loving". Maybe even "firm AND loving". Being allowed to "drift" is not an act of kindness.
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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 03:31:07 PM »

Future, I think the time has come for adult role models to take charge of matters and lay down the law as regards teenagers, especially the boys. I'm going to draft a teenager to work on the farm this summer. I'm not taking "no" for an answer. He's expecting to get paid. I think he should pay me for the therapy. He's got issues that the sunshine and hard work will help work out.

I think the right attitude to take is "firm but loving". Maybe even "firm AND loving". Being allowed to "drift" is not an act of kindness.

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 10:11:28 PM »

Future, I think the time has come for adult role models to take charge of matters and lay down the law as regards teenagers, especially the boys. I'm going to draft a teenager to work on the farm this summer. I'm not taking "no" for an answer. He's expecting to get paid. I think he should pay me for the therapy. He's got issues that the sunshine and hard work will help work out.

I think the right attitude to take is "firm but loving". Maybe even "firm AND loving". Being allowed to "drift" is not an act of kindness.

Taking them more than walking distance from a fast food joint, confectionary, and public transit is a great plus, particularly when related to them and then confiscate cell phones, MP3 etc,  finally inform them they will get to go back when a given quantity of work is done to a stated standard.  Feed and water extremely well regularly when quota's are met.  If nothing else they will leave home to find their own place for yet another experiential learning experience (seldom lasts longer than three months, I like to think of it as a self-supervised time out) then return home far more cooperative and productive.  Remember to guard your furniture and household items when contemplating this one; they will not consider it stealing.  Role modeling would be not loosing it with them while guarding the furniture.

As for the kneeding of bread,  I do the push routine because it is a push routine and my normal activities are not well balenced between push and pull.  Outcome is pain or b o r i n g balancing excercises.  Interuptions provide many rest piriods.

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2010, 02:55:10 PM »
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re: teenagers, the one now getting my FRNs, is brought here by his father then i return him to his home when the work is done. After lunch, before dinner, i won't try to feed him. Its not hard just work, i drive the truck to woodpile, he loads, i drive back to stairs, he carries all wood up stairs stocking both inside and outside storage, during the slack moments (he, he he,  :laughing002:) he is shown the wheelbarrow and the compost pile and told to move loads to garlic bed which is where i am working while he loads truck. Next time he will till the ground too. Of course it matters who you start with, this lad sold me the two giant turkeys last year. Two of his birds had won first and second prize at the county fair last year this year he won first and second for those big birds but raised heirloom turkeys this year due to my encouragement last year. This year i got one of his heirlooms which sold out for a better price by twice than his white big birds. This young man gets his license next spring and then he will drive himself so likely he will get paid more, but since i pay well to begin with maybe not. Hire young people who are involved in agriculture and they guaranteed know how to work. He told me all about what happened the first year he tried to raise turkeys and they all died. Apparently he learned something about responsibility, it was his job he did it poorly his stock died, when he did his job well his stock wins prizes. He knows that before his 16th birthday.

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Re: Eat more Garlic
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2010, 07:15:24 AM »
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