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Re: List of heirloom seed sources
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 02:07:47 AM »

Im sure you have all heard of these concepts before. Im just throwing my vote in for a multi tiered gardening approach. Find a range of plants that can take care of themselves in your area, including longer term solutions like trees.  If there are choices which cover all of the bases in my arid area, with a short cool growing season, I am sure there are most anywhere else.  A little research, a little time, and the right seeds, can make all the difference in the world.

http://www.redwoods.quik.com/webteck/george/legumes.html

http://www.ancientcerealgrains.org/seedandliteraturecatalog1.html

I didnt see these on the list.....

the top one has a good amount of edibles, you could likely establish "wild" if you had some space. some other interesting things also.

The bottom one is a company called Kusa, they have collected alot of the ancient grains, along with many others. For nearly every area there is likely grains you could grow if you had the space, with less input then modern varieties in many cases.....

I especially like the "miracle" barley seeds offer. They relate a story of a plant breeder in india, who bred these barleys. As productive as the green revolution crops, yet produced with very little water, on poor soils, and many even had higher amounts of lysine rare for barley. as soon as the project proved a success his work was destroyed besides a few ascensions he sent to Kusa. I highly recommend them. They will grow on poor soils, without extra water for most people, a few as little as 90 days, healthy, versatile, also dwarf stature, much shorter then most grains.
they give you a small amount it would take awhile to save up enough for a large planting, but personally I think its great. If you dont have irrigation and are forced to grow your own grains, this would be a good one to have in the mix basically. Barley is self fertile by the way, so you could get a little patch each year of these and enlarge it each year, growing them close by with no issues. Within a year or two, I might have seed to give people......

as far as I see it, I believe in redundancy, if you have the space, set up a garden you manage, and properly store the produce of. but also get various types of fruits, and berries, and nut trees going..... sure that is longer term thinking, but that might very well be what we need. Under the trees establish wild edibles, that you could tend by weeding out the non edibles, and spreading the seeds of the ones you like the most. there are greens both perennial and annual that in most areas , could be growing wild or near it...... there are "grains" like indian ricegrass and sand dropseed, very drought tolerant, could be established about anywhere, and is healthy. Plus not likely anyone else would think it was anything other then some bunch grasses. Now tht I think of it the link below has those grasses....

http://plantsofthesouthwest.com/
 


 

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Re: List of heirloom seed sources
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 04:19:20 AM »
$141.00 going to KUSA for seeds. Good find.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 08:30:17 AM »
Good points.  It seems every week I overhear a conversation at the supermarket that goes something like it did yesterday:

"$5.60 for carrots!  These guys are crazy"

"Well, we are growing them ourselves so I guess we have to pay"

"You're right.  But $5.60!  Man, it is time to clear out my garden patch"

"Yes. Last year I had more potatoes than I could eat..."

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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2009, 03:27:14 PM »
very surprised this one isn't already on the list (or maybe eye just didn't see it) anyway now i get to follow this thread.

www.rareseeds.com

thanks silverseeds, seems like you are living up to your adopted avatar name.

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2009, 05:09:34 PM »
Look at the KUSA site. Silverseeds should change his name to Goldseeds.
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Re: List of heirloom seed sources
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2009, 05:18:31 PM »
Look at the KUSA site. Silverseeds should change his name to Goldseeds.

Check out the plants of the southwest site, and the other one to.... the first site I listed just sent me a email saying they are having a sale, all seed packs one dollar..... For end of the year clearance. Im sure if you asked for it hed give the deal to others.....

But the plants of the SW site, has alot of real hardy edible berried plants, might work well in a permaculture set up, and the sand dropseed, and indian ricegrass, both hardy grain substitutes.....

and yes kusa is the best..... expensive, but there is a treasure for just about anyone there imo.....

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Re: List of heirloom seed sources
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2010, 10:41:49 AM »
the indian ricegrass (indian millet) and the sand dropseed do look interesting.  The Indian ricegrass has the added benefit of being a nitrogen fixer.  Plants for a Future has writeups on both.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2011, 04:41:42 PM »
these guys need to build a sorting engine by region to find out which varieties will work in my region vs bunkie's region
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2011, 08:06:00 PM »
The Mapplefarm.com site is a great find. I've wanted a corn variety that will grow that far north.
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2011, 06:20:42 PM »
Great find.  I am gonna cut these ppl a check.  Cool season tomatoes are gems for me in that we grow them 12 months of the year.  Ones that do well ina cool summer should do well in our winter, spring and fall.
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