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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2009, 05:39:38 PM »
Why do you say America’s chickens are coming home to roost?   :confused013:

Oh dear,  it's clearly time for you to go back to school.

Read the transcript you yourself linked to.

The Reverend started off by quoting someone saying that Americas chickens had come home to roost. He then made his own statement in which he said that Americas chickens have come home to roost.  It wasn't a quote, it was his own statement, his own words, his own opinion.

Simple, clear and straightforward.   But still, obviously too complicated for you to understand! :laughing002:

Why are YOU saying America’s chickens are coming home to roost?
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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2009, 06:08:12 PM »
Pitter, patter... I expect that this thread is degenerated because there are substantive issues being avoided.  Nothing like a spat to change the subject.

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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2009, 10:36:37 PM »
The thread drift on this one is truely amazing.
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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2009, 06:29:12 AM »
Pitter, patter... I expect that this thread is degenerated because there are substantive issues being avoided.  Nothing like a spat to change the subject.

Ok.

Back on track.  What is your opinion on 'lifers' being set loose?

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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2009, 03:39:56 PM »
I do not have an opinion on lifer's being set loose.

I know that USA has the highest rate of incarceration in the world.  I also know that a life sentence is a 3rd conviction sentence in the USA.  Also, few states still practice the death penalty, no matter what the crime.

A number of threads here on this forum discuss arrests, and convictions that are suspect in many cases; or, alternatevely, seeming systemic indiference to significant crimes both violent and white collar.
 
So, who exactly are they letting out?

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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2009, 04:47:37 AM »
 
So, who exactly are they letting out?


They are considering letting out young men who committed violent crimes because their 'emotional needs' can't be properly met in prison.

If this were a case of releasing people who had '3 strike' sentences for trivial offences that would be one thing, but they are considering releasing people convicted of serious acts of violence.

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Re: They're gonna do it! Set "lifers" loose...
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2009, 09:16:45 AM »
Who goes to jail, and who does not go to jail; and, for what; has been so low on the reliability scale for so long that discussing who gets out of jail, and who does not get out of jail; and according to what criteria, will not likely make a significant difference in the incidence of criminal offences.

Discussing what factors, applied where; for the purpose on increasing the reliability of outcomes for specific (and it does not matter which ones) would perhaps be more useful. 

I am going to start new topic here.  "What is a criminal offence? & What penalties are appropriate under what circumstances?"