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Better get them while the gettin' is good
« on: July 27, 2008, 06:04:37 PM »
Obama has stated that he doesn't think anybody should own firearms. McCain, although republican, has a dismal voting record on gun related issues and has earned a reputation as an "anti-gunner" amongst gun owners. The bottom line: you better get whatever guns you are going to get before January 20 of next year.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 12:28:06 AM »
Good point.

I don't think the candidates own "ideologies" amount to much. They have marching orders from the invisible hands behind the throne who decide who is allowed to BE a candidate in the first place (those who do not comply are either marginalized like Dr. Ron Paul, assassinated, blackmailed, etc).

The long-term trend seems to be prohibition of PRIVATE weapons. In general, part of a greater trend of not allowing those outside of the Nomenklatura (the politically-connected elites) to have ANYTHING private.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 03:32:46 AM »
Now that I think about it, you should get them before the election in November. People are used to guns being readily available. Come November, people are going to realize that has changed and there will be a lot of buying being done by people who see the window of opportunity closing and decide to get them while they still can.  That means a lot of competition for a limited supply of guns. At the very least prices will rise. At worst, the public will deplete the available supply of certain guns and new legislation will be in place before more can me manufactured or imported.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 08:22:57 AM »
I've always tried to argue that gun control was anti-feminist.

See, your average woman isn't as strong as your average man.  A gun levels the playing field.

Your average man will still be able to kill a woman in a fist fight much more easily than a your average woman can kill him.

So taking away guns hurts women much more than it does men.  I've actually managed to persuade some feminists with this.  *smiles*  Just go on and on about how men want us to be helpless.  Sure, many of the people urging gun control are women, but they are fighting against their best interests.

Of course none of this applies to me, because with my tremor it would be like I was randomly firing in the air.  That's why I carry mace.

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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 10:38:53 PM »
Of course none of this applies to me, because with my tremor it would be like I was randomly firing in the air.

That's what husbands are for. Buy him an AK-47 as an early christmas present and either a Glock or a Springfield XD pistol. A Benelli 12 guage auto-loading shotgun is a real good way to make yourself unpopular in a post-catastrophe situation too.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 07:46:11 AM »
My husband is from Texas.  Believe you me, he has a gun.  *smiles* and I have instructions on how to make saltpeter and coal in my notebook.  Sulfur is a worry for me.  Does it always have to be mined, 'cause we'll have to trade for it.

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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 01:43:45 PM »
I wonder how they got sulfur 200 years ago? All I know is to buy a bag of it at home and garden stores. It's used to dust roses.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 03:48:59 PM »
Sulfur is mined.

It comes from either volcanic areas (it is common around hot springs), or accumulations from the action of anaerobic bacteria on sulfur compounds in sedimentary rocks. Sulfur is abundant (one of the primary constituents of smog  ;) ) but elemental sulfur less so.

Until 1900 most of it came from Sicily. Nowadays a lot of American sulfur comes from east Texas and Louisiana.

Sulfur inhibits the growth of fungii, which is why it is used as an anti-fungal agent for plants. It also interferes with the browning enzyme which is why fruit is often sulfured before drying, and why the salad in restaurant salad bars often contains sulfiting agents.

Oh, in old books, you see sulfur referred to as "brimstone", as in "hellfire and brimstone".
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 01:38:15 PM »
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Obama has stated that he doesn't think anybody should own firearms.

This is wonderful news, when will the police and military be disarming?


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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 07:23:16 PM »
This email just showed up in my inbox a few minutes ago:

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Hi to All,

Have been telling people to buy ammunition.

Now, the sole exporter of Wolf ammunition, from the Soviet Union, is
now banned from selling here.

Load up on ammo folks.
This was for-told a long time ago.  Even if you do not own a firearm
-- BUY AMMO.

BANNED FROM SELLING AMMO.  GET IT?  THE "SOLE" EXPORTER OF WOLF AMMUNITION.

What do they know?  [The "people" (government) who told the
exporter.") What do they know and are not telling us?  This happened
during the Watts riots, R. King riots.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 06:09:29 PM »
Opsec,

Is the source reliable or is there corroboration?  If ammo supply is restricting, I'll want hubby to check his inventory.

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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 06:13:57 PM »
Source is reliable, I've seen the warning posted around other forums too.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 10:05:12 PM »
Wolf ammo is not restricted. I think this is a paranoia email going around, i heard something similar a few years back. It was related to the Iraqi army purchasing up all the 7.62x39 ammo for their AKM/74/47s.
I see no evidence of a shortage, in fact you can still buy wolf ammo in bulk through cabelas.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2008, 10:09:50 PM »
For now perhaps. I hope your right, and this is all just a big hoax. A few years back, it wasn't paranoia. Gun shops were limiting 7.62x39 ammo to two boxes per customer. Even the hundred dollar bill I waved under his nose had no effect.
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Re: Better get them while the gettin' is good
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2008, 10:38:49 PM »
Wolf ammo is not restricted. I think this is a paranoia email going around, i heard something similar a few years back. It was related to the Iraqi army purchasing up all the 7.62x39 ammo for their AKM/74/47s.
I see no evidence of a shortage, in fact you can still buy wolf ammo in bulk through cabelas.

I can't speak for the veracity of the email, but I posted the news story of this here: http://mutuallyassuredsurvival.com/smforums/index.php?topic=619.0

My apologies to Opsec, I didn't see that he had posted it here on this thread or I would've placed that info here.  It's my understanding that supplies of Wolf and other Russian ammo shipped out of Rosodboronexport who is the sole Russian facilitator of arms sales, is frozen.

So what supplies that are in the U.S. now, or awaiting passage through customs, are all there's going to be for two years.  I'll call some friends tomorrow and verify if this is fact or not.  Sorry I didn't get to it today, it sure would've made this post something more than yet another "I don't know".   :laughing002:



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